• Nate
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    669 months ago

    They’ll get a slap on the wrist fine that nowhere near accounts for the amount of money they made doing this.

    • @Bluefruit@lemmy.world
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      429 months ago

      True but this also sets precedent for other cases which is an overall win. But i do wish the fines were bigger I agree with you there.

    • MeanEYE
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      99 months ago

      I loved how EU set fines for GDPR breaches and I feel the same should be applied in other fields when companies are involved. There are two tiers of penalties, with a maximum of 20m euros or 4% of global revenue. That way they feel it. Really feel it. Google got smacked 50 million € for GDPR breach. H&M 35M.

  • @silvercove@lemdro.id
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    439 months ago

    HP has one of the worst customer experiences out there. I don’t understand why people keep buying HP trash.

    • Dudewitbow
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      119 months ago

      People use it because hp printers are cheap, but the users dont know what they are putting themselves into by buying hp.

      • MeanEYE
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        69 months ago

        Stallman from FSF would probably say only if the software is updateable. Firmware which can’t be changed is no different from hardware. I kind of agree, even though he said that about open source. But the point still stands. If printer can’t be used without account or always online or ink. Then it’s a feature. Whether you agree with it or not, vote with your wallet. However if they hide the feature that’s misleading advertising and it’s a different crime all together.

        But what HP tried to do is to send over the air update that prevented printers from using recycled toner. Now that’s a bitch move.

    • MxM111
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      By itself there is nothing immoral in software lock, but the way it is used here is immoral. It is common understanding and expectation that the scanner should work if there is no ink, thus locking scanner is doggy technique. Locking printer if you do not have ink, however, is totally fine, since it prevents printer damage.

        • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏
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          59 months ago

          I miss old printers that would offer to print in black & white or composite black depending on which cartridge is low ☹️

        • MxM111
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          I am sure you can do it in print settings.

          • CMLVI
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            70% of the time, they’re different sizes. And if they aren’t, then the little chip on them let’s the printer know it isn’t the correct cartridge.

            If only it were so simple…

            • Ragnell
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              49 months ago

              If someone ever made dummy cartridges they would sell nicely, I suspect.

              • @Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca
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                129 months ago

                HP has locked down their cartridges so much that even third party hack ones require extracting the chip from a genuine cartridge.

      • YeetPics
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        39 months ago

        It’s a legit use of DRM/software lock if HP gives you the printer to use (for free) when you buy some ink, but they’re charging for it and the ink.

        It’s function theft.

    • MeanEYE
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      19 months ago

      Sadly, they earned a lot of money and this was just calculated expense of doing business. Pretty much all big companies operate like that. Abuse the system, rake in money, leave some aside for settling lawsuits. Forbidding them to sell products for a specific time or recalling all the printers and giving money back… that would make them think twice about next time.

  • @phario@lemmy.ca
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    199 months ago

    I love how so many comments and replies ascribe some form of ‘guilt’ to this, as if HP employees would feel shame. This doesn’t really mean anything to a company that size.

    One of the great things about moving to the UK is that, despite all its problems, consumer protection Europe is so much better than in the US.

  • @pdxfed@lemmy.world
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    69 months ago

    And a hearty fuck you to HP Sales execs, may their children fritter their unearned stock grants on glow in the dark drink umbrellas.