• @Opisek@lemmy.world
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    10511 months ago

    That’s a BS headline made to scare people. The article boils down to “Russia theoretically has the capabilities to attack, but don’t because they know the West will be angry”.

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      Im sure the Poles and the Fins would absolutely love it if he tried.

      • @Monument@lemmy.sdf.org
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        511 months ago

        It’s all fucked.

        Russia fucks around until someone deems them worthy of finding out. Sure, it seems fun when U.S. pilots are cranking up the AC/DC and doing their hero walk on the way to wipe every single Russian airbase and fuel depot off the map, but then half of the west’s water systems, electrical grids, and networking infrastructure gets hacked and severely damaged/bricked. Russia gets hacked and grinds to a standstill. China takes advantage of the chaos and invades Taiwan. The U.S. bombs the chip fabs in Taiwan into powder, and anti-satellite operations trigger the Kessler syndrome. Maybe some of the other regional conflicts pop off, too.

        The bright side is that assuming no nukes fly, we’ll see earth’s habitability improve for a while, once people starve and consumption/ability to produce goes way down.

  • @wandermind@sopuli.xyz
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    I’m half convinced Putin wants NATO to get directly involved so that he can pull out of Ukraine and be like “We didn’t lose to Ukraine, it was the West who once again oppresses poor little Russia”

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      If that’s what he really wants, then I’m sure it could be arranged and nobody needs to get nuked. But it probably isn’t.

      • @wandermind@sopuli.xyz
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        I’m not so sure NATO wants to play directly into Putin’s anti-West narrative.

        Also why would anybody get nuked lol

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          I’m not so sure NATO wants to play directly into Putin’s anti-West narrative.

          They might give Putin that in return for his retreat from Ukraine. That would be the “arrangement”. But again, I don’t really believe it.

          Also why would anybody get nuked lol

          That’s what Putin keeps threatening if NATO gets involved.

          • @Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz
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            He warned about nukes if the west sent artillery, and then when they sent tanks and again over HIMARS, and guess what the threat was about sending jets?

    • @Hux@lemmy.ml
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      I bet that will be his playbook if Joe Biden retains the White House.

      If Trump returns to the White House, Putin will get a punch card for every NATO state he annexes—for every sixth country he conquers, he’ll get a genocide “free-pass”.

      • @NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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        511 months ago

        for every sixth country he conquers, he’ll get a genocide “free-pass”.

        The fine print will read: may be used on past genocides to obtain this card.

  • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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    5811 months ago

    Russia can’t even succeed against Ukraine. What makes him think he has a chance in hell against the combined power of NATO? Hell, man, I’m pretty sure the USA alone would make quick work of Russia in an all out war.

    • @xor@infosec.pub
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      unless they let loose the whole thermonuclear, biological and chemical warfare…

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          Russia would be hardest hit though because most of their population is confined to two or three cities. In most of the rest of the world the population is more distributed.

          It would be devastating to all sides of course, assuming Russia’s oligarchs haven’t stolen the nukes, but Russia would come off worse. Anyway Putin wants to be in charge he isn’t going to risk getting the entire country destroyed, if only because it’s not fun ruling over a crater riddled radioactive moonscape.

          • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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            611 months ago

            Also because the wind blows East out of Europe. So, nuking Europe pushes the fallout across Russia. They would essentially be nuking themselves. The United States is probably the most dispersed population. The country is huge, and other than the big coastal cities, people are spread out over thousands of miles.

  • Echo Dot
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    Russia has claimed it’s going to attack a NATO country since before the Ukrainian war started. They like to say it every now and then, just to remind us that they exist and North Eastern Europe is not just an unpopulated wasteland.

  • @PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world
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    Jarosław Stróżyk said Putin is in a position where he could begin planning a small-scale invasion but is holding back due to the West’s response to the attack in Ukraine.

    “Putin is certainly already prepared for some mini-operation against one of the Baltic countries, for example, to enter the famous Narva [municipality in Estonia] or to land on one of the Swedish islands,” Mr Stróżyk told Polish paper Dziennik Gazeta Prawna.

    Tl;dr - We think that Putin has the capability to mount a small scale invasion, but isn’t doing it because of NATO’s potential response. But if we assume he really wants to, then he will.

  • @Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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    They barely have the manpower to push forward even in Ukraine. Then again if they ever want to do it now is the time because in a few decades they’re not going to have enough fighting age men. I just really doubt this. If the current war has taught us anything it’s that they would get absolutely obliterated by Nato and there are no winners in a nuclear exchange. Also them using nukes in Ukraine/Europe would mean nuking themselves too because that’s the direction wind is going to push the fallout. Though that assumes they would care about their civilian population which they clearly don’t.

  • @bradorsomething@ttrpg.network
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    This sounds like possible intelligence, based on the hawkish tone of france lately; europe has its best interests in going full article 5 if this happens.

    Unfortunately it would never happen before jan 7 and a tragic election.

  • @Pringles@lemm.ee
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    Can we goad him into it? I don’t really want a NATO-Russian war, but it might be the only way to resolve the Russo-Ukraine war to Ukraines advantage.